So, Washington University in St. Louis is presenting Phyllis Schlafly with a honorary doctrate. It wouldn't be my choice, but I'm not the one making it.
She did an interview with their school paper which makes for some interesting reading.
Phyllis Schlafly InterviewWhat do you mean when you say, "Feminists want women to think that they can't succeed"? Everything that they are teaching in Women's Studies and in those courses is that women are victims and that marriage is unfair to women and that it makes them second-class, that men are naturally batterers and that if you get married you'll probably get beaten up. It's a dreary picture that they paint for women of the life of a married women or a mother. I guess I missed that class.
So you see the feminist position as saying that there is one acceptable path for women in the world, the path of the career woman? That's right. Because they think that if you give them the choice, too many will pick getting married.
The two options are not always exclusive. It is possible to have both career and family. Men have been doing it for ages... oh wait.
Could you clarify some of the statements that you made in Maine last year about martial rape?
I think that when you get married you have consented to sex. That's what marriage is all about, I don't know if maybe these girls missed sex ed. That doesn't mean the husband can beat you up, we have plenty of laws against assault and battery. If there is any violence or mistreatment that can be dealt with by criminal prosecution, by divorce or in various ways. When it gets down to calling it rape though, it isn't rape, it's a he said-she said where it's just too easy to lie about it.
"I think that when you get married you have consented to sex." It's not a blanket consent form. Being married does NOT mean that women have to give it up anytime he wants it. If she never wants to have sex, then you have bigger issues that probably require counseling. Or there's always talking about the subject. There may be a physical or emotional reason that can be dealt with.
"That doesn't mean the husband can beat you up, we have plenty of laws against assault and battery." OK - so it's okay for him to force you to have sex (whether physically or by nagging you into it), but it's not okay for him to hit you. I have to tell you, I think the former is far more damaging than the latter one. And really, if you have to nag your partner into it, what is the point?
I mean, I have to admit here - there was a fairly long period where I just did not feel like having sex after I had my daughter (well after the six week mark). I just didn't feel any desire to, at all. It may have been hormonal. I missed feeling like I wanted to have sex, and I'm grateful that my husband was understanding and didn't let his frustration become an issue between the two of us.
But honestly, if one partner is just submitting out of duty, is it really worth it?
To me, though, this is the saddest bit:
"That's what marriage is all about"Funny. I thought marriage was about partnership. And love, which may be expressed through sex. It may also be expressed by a husband getting up on the 2AM feeding so his wife can sleep, or by a wife doing something similar for a husband.
Marriage is about more than sex - it's about being partners.
And then she accuses feminists of wanting to keep marital rape in the grab-bag of goodies.
Sometimes, I really just find other people depressing.
DV