desertvixen: (schroedingers cat)

 Yes, I am a glutton for punishment.  Luckily this guy doesn't post every day...

 Respectable Men Don't Use Contraceptives

Men want respect. Some men deserve more respect than others. Respectable men do not beg for sex. This is what you men should remember. Respectable men are non-contraceptive. Contraceptive males are called boys as they cater to the insecurities and whims of females.

And I was with him on the "Respectable men don't beg for sex" point.  But contraception can be very respectable, when (shock, gasp!) women do not want to become pregnant. 

Know that contraception is a female ploy. A man who agrees to contracepting is being played by the female. Whether the female is his wife, his girlfriend, his fubu, or a plain old prostitute.

Nice way to imply you think wives/girlfriends are some sort of fancy prostitute. 

Contraception is a way females play russian roulette, it is a manner in which they choose the fathers of their children. A woman subconsciously chooses the father of her offspring by conveniently “forgetting” to put on that condom, by “forgetting” to take
her pills, by “forgetting” to put on her diaphragm.

Well, actually, some of us decide to also achieve it by only sleeping with the man we're married to.  But even then, we aren't always trying to get pregnant.

A wife may have chosen to marry a man as her legal husband. But her body language, her reality shows she has in fact NOT chosen him to father her child when she chooses to have fake sex with him by using condoms on him.

Awww, do I detect someone who doesn't like wearing condoms? 

Nonsense! There are many women out there who will accept your entire manhood, real sex and all. Will get pregnant? No problem. Glad to choose you to father her children, now, today.

And that's their choice.  Not ours.  But they are more than welcome to it, as long as it is something they choose.

Sometimes I think the metaphor of adam and eve was that Eve engaged Adam in contraception. The forbidden fruit is contraception.

This is one of the more original takes on it, but I notice we still get to blame the woman.

And from another post:

You see love is also hormonal and chemical. Your semen has hormones and chemicals that will make a woman love you.  Inseminate them regularly and they will stick to you like glue.

I can't even work up a good mock.

DV
desertvixen: (sexism)

 There's more where this one came from: http://desert-vixen.livejournal.com/432119.html

 I apparently missed the "polygamy" tag at the header of the post, which helps make things clearer.   He does, essentially, want a license to screw around, spreading his seed, and evil contraceptive women are trapping him because they won't play the game his way.

 It gets better.  Here's another entry from the actual page, not FSTDT.

 http://www.pronatal.org/2008/04/04/contraception-harms-people-society-and-civilization/


Let us dive into the crazy.  His words are in bold.

The natural scheme of things is that males and females are attracted to one another. They have sexual intercourse, females become pregnant. Children are born. Children are raised to become adults life goes on.

In the natural scheme of things, healthy men are sexually active when called upon for action. Women have a cycle where they are interested in sex when the time is “right”. That right time is when she is healthy and willing to bear children. A pregnant female is not interested in any more sex, nor should she be having sex, she is already pregnant. Do you understand?

 One of the nice things about being human is that we do not go into heat.  My understanding is that yes, at certain times of the menstrual cycle, women may be more interested in sex.  However, it doesn't have to be the fertile time for us to want to have sex. 

 As far as the "pregnant women not being interested in sex", I have to throw up the huge BS flag.  As I think, do many of us on this f-list.  Sex is still fun when you're pregnant (as long as you're having a normal, healthy pregnancy with no risk factors that could be exacerbated by sex).  It may require some changes, but it's still fun. 

 But then, I also believe that sex is for more than procreation. 

 So yes, I understand...that you're a touch out there.

 And yes, some women may NOT feel like having sex when pregnant, for whatever reason.  And it's okay.  Because you know, we're all DIFFERENT.  We're all individuals.  In fact, even different pregnancies can be different for the same woman.

Once a female has given birth, she needs to breast feed her little one for some 2 years and stick close to her baby. At this time there is no desire for children. And if there is no desire for children, no sex is desired.

 Well, yes, the WHO does recommend breastfeeding for 2 years.  Part of the reason behind this is that it is the most suitable food for infants, and part of it is due to the fact that many places in the world have water sanitation issues that make it overall the safest choice. Here in the US, it's not such a big factor.  There are lots of factors, so let's not open up the can of breastfeeding worms.

 Another BS flag on "no desire for children" = "no desire for sex". 

Now the civilization and other means of organization have come up with marriage. A man for every child to ensure that children are better taken cared of. A man and his whole family plus the woman and her family is a pretty good idea. Since a woman may only be interested in sex every 2 to 3 years it makes no sense for a man to with hold his sexuality in those 2 to 3 years where a woman is not sexually available, nor should it make sense to rush a woman and have additional children when she is not healthy nor ready yet. So it was and still is natural for men to have multiple wives. Everyone was happy with this arrangement. The man’s family had more offspring through their men. And the women could pick the best men in their village to fertilize them. Polygamy was the norm and everyone was happy.

 Yes to not rushing women to have more children - WTF? to the rest of the post.  I also have news for the poster - somehow, I doubt you would have been among "the best men".

Then an imperialist civilization arose and through their primitive monetary system and contraceptive technology had the dumb idea to impose government business partnerships called marriage and made it exclusive and unnatural. They called this invention monogamy. An artificial construct founded on contraceptive herbs and technology. They made it law that men and women can marry only one at a time. If they wanted a new partner, they needed to divorce their old partner. In the old days, you just added a new wife and everyone was happy. Common divorces made people unhappy in the empire and eventually the concept of marriage became moot and no one wanted to have anything with that government partnership called marriage.

 More WTF? here.  Also, wondering who the "imperialist civilization" was. 

 And how much do you want to bet that "everyone" means the men?

Fast forward 2000 years later today in my country. Monogamy is made possible through contraceptive technology. Women become sexual toys, sexual receptacles, available to give and receive sexual pleasure any time with minimum possibilities of pregnancy. In government marriage, men are given the unnatural burden to have sex with only one woman because with contraceptive technology, that woman, his wife can supposedly fill all his sexual entertainment wants.

Okay, first off: Contraceptives do not mean you have to have sex.  The pill does not make you into a "receptacle", although thank you for exposing how you truly view women. 

 As far as the wife as sexual entertainment, it goes both ways (but that involves acknowledging that women desire sex for more than procreation).  There's also those two concepts of fantasizing and masturbation. 

But this is unnatural. Millions of years of evolution cannot be enforced by man made laws policing sexual behavior. What happens today is that contraceptive technology has debased sexuality into a religion of entertainment, of pleasure, instead of sex being a means for reproduction. This sexual repression has led to enormous industries serving the contraceptive side effects. Prostitution is the all encompassing side effect. Millions of women are now prostitutes for money, for food, for love, for free. Millions of men have been stunted of their maturities by submitting to contraceptive sex.

 I agree there are issues with sex in our society, but you can't blame them all on contraceptives.  They may play a part in some.

Millions of women feel they are goddesses, they control a man through his contraceptive penis.

 Yes, this is the super-WTF that ended up on FSTDT.

What a shame. What a low down shame people have gone today. Men submitting to women and thanking them for sex? Give me a break.
Top grade males are always in high demand. Top grade males do not submit to contraceptive slavery. A woman who partners with top grade males want their sperm, they demand it, top material to make their babies with.

Again, this guy is mistakenly thinking he's one of these top males.

And yes, sometimes my husband does thank me for sex.  Sometimes I thank him.  Although, it's not just thank you for sex, but thank you for a lot of things. 

And punishing males for their non-compliance to monogamy?  What an an unnatural man made abomination of laws we are  living in.  Most wives cannot keep their end of the bargain.  Most of them don’t enjoy being sexual receptacles and have sex during times they don’t want to.  Contraceptive technology is imperfect and unhealthy in the first place.  Those health conscious women will merely abstain from sex.  And where does that leave their husbands?  Back to nature.

 Marriage does not equal a license to get sex whenever he feels like it.

 And yes, contraceptives have their ups and downs.  That's why 1) we have a variety of different methods to suit different women and 2) there is no one forcing women to take them.  That would be just as wrong as forbidding them to all women.  Some women, for whatever reason, do not like birth control.  That's okay.  The important thing is HAVING THE CHOICE.

The idea of a 2nd wife, 3rd wife, 4th wife doesn’t sound so bad after all now.  What woman wants to give birth year after year after year?

 That, dear sir, would be why women use contraceptives.

First wife is pregnant, sexual relations stop and continue only when her child is 2 to 4 years old.  A 2nd wife may be a good idea, and when that wife becomes pregnant, a 3rd wife may be a good idea, then a 4th wife, then it is back to wife number 1 then 2, then 3 then 4.  Everyone is happy.

And, so, while she is waiting for him to come back, it's okay if she finds another "top male", right?  Somehow, I don't think so.

All that is needed today is a change in the monetary system and everyone should be happy.  If each and every child came with a guaranteed living fund, people would choose the natural way.  I’m dreaming.  The international money masters, the bankers would never want this.  They want the money and the power all to themselves.

Government monogamous only marriage is just one of their tools to control a hapless citizenry.

 And we end, where we started, on WTF?

 Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see government devote more resources to children.  Every child should have health insurance.  Every child should have enough food to eat, a warm, safe place to live, and education.

 But not as a sledgehammer to convince women to put up with this BS.

 DV
desertvixen: (feminine intuition)

I stopped reading too soon.  This one is MUCH better than the last one.  (And, by better, I mean OMG! Crack)

http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?q=38114
A man is a wonderful thing. All that power, all that energy, all that intelligence. A man’s sexual instincts allows him to reproduce for the survival of his bloodline. Paired with an equally wonderful woman, wonderful offspring are produced.

But paired to a contraceptive woman and agreeing to her demands of contraception, he his demoted to a lowly snake slithering on the ground begging for sex. Phoooey. A man begging for sex is pathetic. Agreeing to contraceptive sex is pathetic. The contraceptive woman today is the most common type of woman. This is why society is dysfunctional. And this is no accident. Contraception is ingrained in today’s children, in the feminist manifestos, in marriage seminars. Some men get into marriage thinking it is open access to beautiful sex, instead submit to chains of contraception that enable a facade called monogamy.

There are many good men out there. Family oriented, family serving men. Most confronted with demands of contraception from women who demand monogamy. A few months later the contraceptive sexual activity gets old, stale and downright not worth it. It is not so different from aversion to sexual activity induced by infertility problems.
A man agreeing to contraception is not a man. He is a slave to his woman. He is a slave to his sexual desires. The 21st century are feminist times. Men have been castrated by contraception. Contraception is the core of the feminist religion.

Men can break the feminist stranglehold by swearing off all forms of contraception with his women. If she wants contraception, then let her be. Never beg. Never be enslaved. There are better women.

Point #1: I'm not sure if it's proper, but "contraceptive" as an adjective applied to a person seems like really bad word choice.  Actually, it makes me picture a sort of superhero - ContraceptiveWoman!

Point #2: I have news for you.  The more kids you have, the less likely it is you're going to have lots of opportunities for "beautiful sex". 

 Point #3: He's against contraception, but he's also against monogamy?  So... basically it sounds like he's in favor of guys getting to screw around in the name of "perpetuating his line".  Except, that doesn't sound very family oriented to me.

 Point #4: I'm going to hate telling my husband he's "not a man". 

 Point #5: This guy is a waste of oxygen.  More proof of why we should let the crazies on the Internet.  Otherwise, rational people might not believe they exist.

 DV

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