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 Yes, I am a glutton for punishment.  Luckily this guy doesn't post every day...

 Respectable Men Don't Use Contraceptives

Men want respect. Some men deserve more respect than others. Respectable men do not beg for sex. This is what you men should remember. Respectable men are non-contraceptive. Contraceptive males are called boys as they cater to the insecurities and whims of females.

And I was with him on the "Respectable men don't beg for sex" point.  But contraception can be very respectable, when (shock, gasp!) women do not want to become pregnant. 

Know that contraception is a female ploy. A man who agrees to contracepting is being played by the female. Whether the female is his wife, his girlfriend, his fubu, or a plain old prostitute.

Nice way to imply you think wives/girlfriends are some sort of fancy prostitute. 

Contraception is a way females play russian roulette, it is a manner in which they choose the fathers of their children. A woman subconsciously chooses the father of her offspring by conveniently “forgetting” to put on that condom, by “forgetting” to take
her pills, by “forgetting” to put on her diaphragm.

Well, actually, some of us decide to also achieve it by only sleeping with the man we're married to.  But even then, we aren't always trying to get pregnant.

A wife may have chosen to marry a man as her legal husband. But her body language, her reality shows she has in fact NOT chosen him to father her child when she chooses to have fake sex with him by using condoms on him.

Awww, do I detect someone who doesn't like wearing condoms? 

Nonsense! There are many women out there who will accept your entire manhood, real sex and all. Will get pregnant? No problem. Glad to choose you to father her children, now, today.

And that's their choice.  Not ours.  But they are more than welcome to it, as long as it is something they choose.

Sometimes I think the metaphor of adam and eve was that Eve engaged Adam in contraception. The forbidden fruit is contraception.

This is one of the more original takes on it, but I notice we still get to blame the woman.

And from another post:

You see love is also hormonal and chemical. Your semen has hormones and chemicals that will make a woman love you.  Inseminate them regularly and they will stick to you like glue.

I can't even work up a good mock.

DV

Date: 2008-04-29 02:23 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xinef.livejournal.com
Right, and all men want to father countless numbers of children, whom someone has to support. Not to mention be around to act as a father-figure to all of them as they grow up. Right?

Date: 2008-04-29 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desert-vixen.livejournal.com

Well, in the other post, he's envisioning a "life fund" for each child from the government...

DV

Date: 2008-04-29 01:00 pm (UTC)
ext_5457: (Default)
From: [identity profile] xinef.livejournal.com
Ah, right. So he can father as many kids as he can and not have to support any of them. I think I'll opt out of that equation!!!

Date: 2008-04-29 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] garpu.livejournal.com
That guy has some serious mommy and abandonment issues...

Date: 2008-04-29 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desert-vixen.livejournal.com

You think... ?

The forbidden fruit = contraceptives was kind of interesting, though.

DV

Date: 2008-04-29 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] garpu.livejournal.com
That assumes that sex shouldn't have a pleasurable component for it. i dunno, if it doesn't feel good, someone's doing something wrong. Then again if "his women" only want to sleep with him every 2-3 years...

Date: 2008-04-29 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desert-vixen.livejournal.com

But we only want to have sex when we want to have children! /whackjob

Actually, though, the first thing that went through my head about the forbidden fruit deal was wondering what some in That Catholic Comm who did her thesis on the birth control issues would think of it...

Key word, sleep with him.

DV

Date: 2008-04-29 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] garpu.livejournal.com
you know, it wouldn't surprise me if she agreed with it...

Date: 2008-04-29 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rockahulababy.livejournal.com
Are you trying to give me a coronary? :(

Date: 2008-04-29 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desert-vixen.livejournal.com

No, but is it working?

;)

DV

Date: 2008-04-29 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rockahulababy.livejournal.com
Gettin' there. :| I swear, people like this deserve a swift kick to the head.

Date: 2008-04-29 07:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pecunium.livejournal.com
Fake sex? WTF? Hormones and chemicals?

I am boggled. I am also certain he's against forcing men to pay child support.

She, after all, was willing to let him have the, "chance" to "father her children", so if he leaves her, well she got what she wanted.

Bugger that for a lark.

TK

Date: 2008-04-30 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desert-vixen.livejournal.com

I'm totally in agreement with your last.

DV

Date: 2008-04-29 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginmar.livejournal.com
God, this guy thinks his sperm is like the Olympic Gold Medal swim team, doesn't he? Dude has serious sperm issues. Gah. Why do you do this to yourself? And why us?

Date: 2008-04-30 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desert-vixen.livejournal.com

My work is making me need some sort of stress release valve.

DV

Date: 2008-04-30 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginmar.livejournal.com
It could be worse. You could be watching NCIS like I am and gaping in astonishment at the badness of the Iraq street scene.

Date: 2008-04-29 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-blue-fenix.livejournal.com
And from another post:

You see love is also hormonal and chemical. Your semen has hormones and chemicals that will make a woman love you. Inseminate them regularly and they will stick to you like glue.
I can't even work up a good mock.


IIRC the Magic Sperm method only works for James Bond. And he's a supernatural being, of course. (ObGoodSF: "The Jennifer Morgue," Charles Stross.

Date: 2008-04-30 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desert-vixen.livejournal.com

Well, usually when they use this argument, they pull out oxytocin as the "love hormone".

Shall we break out the appropriate chorus from Monty Python?

DV

Date: 2008-04-29 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] datajana2007.livejournal.com
"A woman subconsciously chooses the father of her offspring by conveniently “forgetting” to put on that condom"

Are we talking about a male condom or female condom here? If it's the former, then the person is full of it.

Date: 2008-04-30 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desert-vixen.livejournal.com

Not sure, but one of his contentions is that a man would never use a condom unless forced to by an evil, contracepting, selfish woman.

But you're right, he is full of it.

DV

Silly fox!

Date: 2008-04-30 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carbonelle.livejournal.com
Of course respectable men don't use contraceptives, because they're not having sex with anyone until after they're married.

And of course, they needn't use them after they're married either, if they find a woman who wants lots of children (rare, nowadays, but hey, no-one ever said life was going to be easy)

Heh.

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