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[desertvixen]

Two goodies today!

http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/Default.aspx

"Why you may ask? And how long is long you may also ask. Well, if you read in the New Testament you will find the part where the woman wiped Jesus's feet with her hair. It was an act of love and a sign of submission to God and it showed her being humble. So, a woman's hair ought to be long enough to wipe the feet of Jesus, should she have the chance or else she would miss out on the opportunity on the account that she was being selfih and wanted things her way. It doesn't matter what we want but what God wants us to do according to the Bible. God gave us His Word for faith and practice for our everyday lives including every area in our lives. If I claim to be a christian and against feminism I ought to be living like it according to the Bible. God's Word is my standard thus I want to live like it."

I guess this is sort of the reverse of the people who incessantly ask women with long hair if they're growing it for Locks of Love. "No, I'm growing it for Jesus!"

"I find it almost amusing if it weren't so sad that women want to keep their maiden names instead of taking on their husband's names when they marry. Some say that they "lose their identity" by taking on their husbands name. Women see it as "giving up" their maiden name. Let's face it. Us women will always have the name of a man. Either our fathers name or our husbands name. God meant it like that. A woman is under the protection and authority of her father until marriage. Her last name is an indicator of that. When she gets married her last name changes to show the new protection and authority in her life. I don't understand why women are so eager to keep their father's name...either way it's a man's name."

Many of you know this is one of my particular pet peeves.

DV

Comments

[garpu.livejournal.com]

Oy vey, Maria. Where do they get this shit? Oh yeah I shocked most of my family, when I told them I wasn't taking Steve's name. I'm sure I'll be addressed as Mrs. Hoopy Frood, whether I want to be or not.

[desert-vixen.livejournal.com]

Probably.

I went ahead and had the address labels made with both names on them. Brian's is on top because his name is shorter, makes the label look more balanced.

DV

[kishiriadgr.livejournal.com]

Well, that's why I invented the surname Huehueocelotl for myself.

Ditto on getting fed up with the nonstop "Locks of Love" question.

[desert-vixen.livejournal.com]

Yes, especially since I am cutting some of it off before I go "On Safari". Not a lot, maybe 6-8 inches.

DV

[norabombay.livejournal.com]

My parents were married in 1975. It had only been legal for a woman to keep her own name in the state of florida for about 6 months.

My mother kept hers.

My parents have been married close to 33 years. And she still has her own name.

I fail to see how this harmed the world. You know? I'm certainly not making any plans to change mine.

[desert-vixen.livejournal.com]

Stand by for the next post, then.

I thought about keeping my name, but decided the hyphenation made more sense. We have, however, given the small one only her father's last name. It's a compromise based on the fact that a) don't want confusion for her b) he said he would feel left out if he was the only one in the house with his last name, and c) we've already saddled her with spelling out her last name for the rest of her life.

DV

[norabombay.livejournal.com]

That plan actually works well-

My parents' didn't hyphenate, as effectively it's impossible with their names. You get a gloppy mess that is like 24 letters long.

But, my brother and I got only my dad's last name. I don't think it was a bad decision to do that either- a lot of how I feel about names is that the one you have is your own identity. That identity could involve the name you were born with. It could involve one you choose yoru self.

But it's the syllables that represent you.

The baby, well the baby can get the syllables that become it's identity, whatever they are.

Personally, I'm probably planning to do the same- my actual last name is still unhyphenable, and I don't mind not passing it on. But I'm single and 31. I'm also not going to change it.

[desert-vixen.livejournal.com]

I thought you might have something to say on names and identities...

Ours is good for hyphenation, because they're both short. If we had something longer, I might have reconsidered.

Then there's the whole "his name is supposed to come first" crowd. Myhre-Hart doesn't roll as nicely as Hart-Myhre does, which was a deciding factor.

DV

[norabombay.livejournal.com]

Well, given that I decided one day to just create an entire fake identity for myself, and went with it?

THe fact is that I answer to Nora Bombay. It is as much my name as Elizabeth is. Sometimes even more so, as Nora Bombay has much of my inner life cornered in a way that my actual self doesn't.

I'm not changing my fake name should I get married either.

I have never in my life heard the "his name should come first" argument. I always assumed that people hyphenating did so based on what combination sounded better. It doesn't matter the order if you like it.

Sometimes, I think that singledom has some real privledges.

[sauscony.livejournal.com]

Ugh! I kept my name when I got married and if I have children, I plan to either give them my last name or hyphenate my name and my spouse's. A permanently unmarried but life-partnered friend of mine gave her children her last name, so there are some children who never have their father's name at all.

[desert-vixen.livejournal.com]

so there are some children who never have their father's name at all.

Thus leading to the end of civilization as we know it, cats and dogs living together...

Like we don't have bigger problems in the world, people.

DV

[mbeancntr.livejournal.com]

I hear ya on the Locks for Love comment.

I kept my name and am glad I did.

[desert-vixen.livejournal.com]

I've written about the Locks of Love thing before, and it just irritates me. It's a good cause, and all, but most of the time, our hair isn't in good enough shape anyway:

http://www.squidoo.com/locksoflove

Many times hair that is cut never actually reaches Locks of Love. The average American female uses many cosmetics on her hair, and uses heated devices on her hair everyday which damage and weaken the hair making it unfit for wigs anyhow.

But more than that, what's so hard to understand that we're wearing our hair long because we LIKE it? I like having long hair, and being able to do things like cut off six inches and still have it brush my waist. My husband also likes it, AND helps take care of it when he's not out of the country (oooh hair brushing).

My own father probably wouldn't recognize me with short hair.

DV

[norabombay.livejournal.com]

Personally, I find the fetishism of cancer that locks of love is a symptom of creepy.

Cancer is awful, and I don't wish it on anyone. But I don't feel that I need to donate my (entirely unuseable) hair. OR that everything I own needs a pink breast cancer ribbon.

The whole thing sort of creeps me out. Locks of Love is just a symptom of it.