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This article on how feminism is "destroying mankind" (the author's choice of words, not mine) was tipped in a comment in![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
ginmar's blog. It's linked to another feminst blog, Echidne of the Snakes.
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WE'VE GONE THE WRONG WAY, BABY: Feminism's Proud Destruction of Mankind
Resa LaRu Kirkland
9/7/2006
I'm ashamed to be a woman. I feel less for it... like I don't quite measure up. Now understand, men have never made me feel less. No, this inferiority complex began about 35 years ago with a little thing called Feminism. Feminism has made me ashamed of my sex-as a group and individually.
There was a time when women deserved respect-because we are mothers, because of our natural softness and tender feelings, because we have been the ones who raised up righteous leaders of good nations for centuries now. We dropped the ball on that most vital role, not men. Consequently, we don't deserve the respect that men-yes men!--have bestowed upon us any longer. It is the day care facility-institutions-that raises our children now, and the result has been the most horrific social experiment history has ever seen.
In the sixties, women began taking the easy way out. Why? Because Motherhood is a damned hard thing to do. It is 24/7/365. There is no pay, no immediate gratification, little recognition, and more often than not, no appreciation until you yourself become a mother. When you go to work, you get to dress nicely. You have a schedule that you actually keep. People do what you tell them to do. You get to speak to and with adults, have conversations that have meaning. You get regular breaks, and no one is peeing or spitting up on you, throwing tantrums, breaking your things, or calling Grandma to get his way. And while there is truth to the fact that society has both revered and ridiculed that which comes naturally to women-tenderness-it is women-not men--who have inflicted the most damage. Let me explain why.
Men have always been in awe of the female form-not just physically, but spiritually and emotionally as well. While they may burst with pride over their strength and snicker at the physical "weakness" of women when compared to men, they hold in that realm of mystical and reverent those attributes of femininity that are not as comfortable within themselves, and they marvel about them in private moments. They reveal this wondering in ways that are at times misunderstood, but nevertheless bespeak of the awe they feel toward the female sex.
My all time favorite saying about the power women possess was revealed by author Samuel Johnson in the 18th century: Nature has given women so much power that the law has very wisely given them little. Now before feminists start ripping tendons and ligaments with their typical knee-jerk reaction to this example, look again. This is a statement and recognition of the power and strength men recognize within women-power they envy, strength they admire, and tenderness they crave. This is a statement of respect and recognition for women, not belittlement.
Jump forward to the 20th century, and the advent of militant feminism that took hold of our culture. Now understand, there isn't a person-male or female-that I know who doesn't believe that women were mistreated in the past, or that they deserve rights of voting, work, etc. So let's just toss that ridiculous argument from the get-go. No, this is about the fact that these Stalinistic Types who decided that women deserved better--not just equal-treatment than men have overtaken, destroyed, and even in the face of logic and reason-and their own case studies and evaluations--turned to typical female histrionics to bludgeon society into doing what they say.
This was driven home with a resounding wham! when Bernard Goldberg-a man, no less--talked about the final straw that made him decide he could no longer play his part in the Liberal Lineup that has overtaken the media. In his best-selling book Bias, Goldberg states that there had been little things for years that had gnawed at his conscience, but it was when he saw what was happening to children-at the behest of women, no less-that he knew he could pretend no more.
Goldberg only gave voice to what we've all seen for decades now, but have become too Politically Castrated to say. It is the horrifying trend in our children's feelings, lives, and behavior. You see, when we began giving into the bullying tactics of the feminist movement that used guilt and "Second Class Status" brainwashing to get women to leave the home, it resulted in our children going en masse to day cares or coming home alone. Suicide rates, sexual diseases, poor academics, increased violence and drug use, not to mention less formal criminal behavior such as arguing a great deal, deliberate and even gleeful cruelty, explosive behavior, too much talking, too much fighting have all been the result of the selfishness of the "Woman-Good-Man-Bad" mentality of those who pay lip service only to it being "for the children" when what they really intend to say is "Mine! Mine! Mine! Now! Now! Now!"
The real kicker to this is that the Gloria Steinems of the world don't even realize what they were saying by getting women to leave the home for the "man's world." It was the women of the world-not the men-who force fed women the notion that what comes naturally to men-to conquer the outside world-was more important, better, more deserving than what comes naturally to women. They were actually demeaning femininity by their own words, and were too foolish to even realize it. The shame of my sex is that we bought into it. The shame of the male sex is that they did too.
Society has paid a dear price for women choosing to listen to these wretched individuals. Women are now in a far worse position than they were 100 years ago; back then, they didn't have many other choices than to be a wife and mother. Today, if they want to be a wife and mother, they can't unless they marry a very rich man. Feminism has enslaved us into the "SuperWoman" role-an impossible place to live. But I have a sick feeling that that is exactly their goal. You see, being pro-abortion isn't enough. They want motherhood and wife-dom to be so difficult, so back-breaking, so agonizing in modern living that women will choose not to marry and have children. For those who still don't grasp it, let me say it in plain speech: Feminism is the party of the "anti-child."
"Female Empowerment" was the shameful fantasy. Now for the harsh reality. Sisters, your babies are killing each other. They are having babies at younger ages and in record numbers in a desperate search for that unconditional love they couldn't find in the myriad of minimum wage babysitters and daycares they had growing up. They are turning to gangs and drugs to ease the pain of loneliness and the longing for Mommy-a longing which is innate, necessary, and good-and it is our fault. Our children are suffering; their tender feelings have waxed cold and all signs of humanity are dying off in agonizing death throes, and we women are the cause. Women. The givers of life have turned against their own offspring in a vain quest for self-fulfillment. It is madness.
Society became this way because we women allowed ourselves to feel ashamed for having children and raising them right, and that was wrong. It's time for the New Feminist Revolution. No longer can our children-or society-abide the general female answer and shrug: "Well, it's the day we live in... whatcha gonna do?"
Here's what you're gonna do. Women, go home. Get rid of the huge mortgage and move into a trailer. It's not the neighborhood-or village, idiot!-that raises a good child. Have two cars? Get rid of one and deal with the annoyance of having to drive more. It's not the car that makes the family. Fancy clothes and vacations? Trivial and silly... those won't be what your child remembers. Be the one who drops him off and picks him up from school. Those precious moments laughing and talking will always be remembered, I guarantee it. Be in the kitchen, filling a warm home with delicious smells, sounds, and memories, and bring the whole family in to make dinner again, cleaning up together afterwards and bonding over pot roast. It is simple, it is time tested, it is true. The hand that rocks the cradle did-at one time-rule the world. The cradle is silent because the hand is at work and the baby at an institution. Sisters, go home-too much is at stake. Your babies are dying and killing, and the only one who can stop this infanticide is you. The power is-and always has been-yours. Take it back now... it's almost too late.
Keep the faith, bros-and sis-and in all things courage.
****
Hmmm, where to start, where to start?
There was a time when women deserved respect-because we are mothers, because of our natural softness and tender feelings, because we have been the ones who raised up righteous leaders of good nations for centuries now.
Except, of course, that all that respect didn't get us the right to vote, the right to leave an abusive marriage and still have our children, the right to be treated as adults rather than children in a legal sense. All that respect didn't keep men from battering and otherwise mistreating women. Then, they just called it "within their rights".
Not to mention the women who are NOT mothers. Some by choice, some by chance.
In the sixties, women began taking the easy way out. Why? Because Motherhood is a damned hard thing to do. It is 24/7/365.
Yes, because being a working mother is easy. You don't do anything when you come home. /sarcasm
Being a working mother is like having 2 full-time jobs. The fathers of my generation are starting to be more involved, but mothers who work (many because they must) tend to come home from one job and right into another.
No, this is about the fact that these Stalinistic Types who decided that women deserved better--not just equal-treatment than men have overtaken, destroyed, and even in the face of logic and reason-and their own case studies and evaluations--turned to typical female histrionics to bludgeon society into doing what they say.
"Typical female histrionics" to get our way? Wait, hasn't she just been talking about all the respect society has for women, all the power we have? Why would we have to resort to pitching a fit to get what we want?
It was the women of the world-not the men-who force fed women the notion that what comes naturally to men-to conquer the outside world-was more important, better, more deserving than what comes naturally to women.
"Naturally"? Oh you mean after society beat it into us.
It's not that it's more important, it's that they thought women deserved the same opportunity as men.
For those who still don't grasp it, let me say it in plain speech: Feminism is the party of the "anti-child."
And this would be why feminists argue for things like mandatory maternity leave and better access to better day care centers, right?
Here's what you're gonna do. Women, go home. Get rid of the huge mortgage and move into a trailer.
It must be nice to live in this writer's world. There's obviously no women who work because they must - because they are single mothers - because their husbands cannot work - because they want to provide their children with advantages like better schools and more chances for a better life.
It is simple, it is time tested, it is true. The hand that rocks the cradle did-at one time-rule the world.
I'm sorry, but I have got to call bullshit on this one.
Note, the author is an "avid military historian", is working on her grad degree in military history (sure sounds tender and caring to me), enjoys "power-lifting, snowmobiling, activities of any nature", and has nicknames like "The Pitbull".
I wonder if she hangs out with Dr. Laura (who berates women for not staying home with their children, while she has a very active career. Or Phyllis Schafly, who told women to stay at home while she traveled and campaigned.
Practice what you preach, and don't try to force me, or any other woman into the role YOU envision for us.
If women want to stay home - if they feel it's the best thing for their child, or it's simply what they want to do - go for it. Feminism is meant to be about having choices, not just being shuffled off into one box.
And for God's sake, quit trying to pit working mothers against stay-at-home mothers - because when it comes down to it, members of both groups are all mothers, and want what's best for our families, and for us. The two should not be exclusive.
DV
This article on how feminism is "destroying mankind" (the author's choice of words, not mine) was tipped in a comment in
ginmar's blog. It's linked to another feminst blog, Echidne of the Snakes.****
WE'VE GONE THE WRONG WAY, BABY: Feminism's Proud Destruction of Mankind
Resa LaRu Kirkland
9/7/2006
I'm ashamed to be a woman. I feel less for it... like I don't quite measure up. Now understand, men have never made me feel less. No, this inferiority complex began about 35 years ago with a little thing called Feminism. Feminism has made me ashamed of my sex-as a group and individually.
There was a time when women deserved respect-because we are mothers, because of our natural softness and tender feelings, because we have been the ones who raised up righteous leaders of good nations for centuries now. We dropped the ball on that most vital role, not men. Consequently, we don't deserve the respect that men-yes men!--have bestowed upon us any longer. It is the day care facility-institutions-that raises our children now, and the result has been the most horrific social experiment history has ever seen.
In the sixties, women began taking the easy way out. Why? Because Motherhood is a damned hard thing to do. It is 24/7/365. There is no pay, no immediate gratification, little recognition, and more often than not, no appreciation until you yourself become a mother. When you go to work, you get to dress nicely. You have a schedule that you actually keep. People do what you tell them to do. You get to speak to and with adults, have conversations that have meaning. You get regular breaks, and no one is peeing or spitting up on you, throwing tantrums, breaking your things, or calling Grandma to get his way. And while there is truth to the fact that society has both revered and ridiculed that which comes naturally to women-tenderness-it is women-not men--who have inflicted the most damage. Let me explain why.
Men have always been in awe of the female form-not just physically, but spiritually and emotionally as well. While they may burst with pride over their strength and snicker at the physical "weakness" of women when compared to men, they hold in that realm of mystical and reverent those attributes of femininity that are not as comfortable within themselves, and they marvel about them in private moments. They reveal this wondering in ways that are at times misunderstood, but nevertheless bespeak of the awe they feel toward the female sex.
My all time favorite saying about the power women possess was revealed by author Samuel Johnson in the 18th century: Nature has given women so much power that the law has very wisely given them little. Now before feminists start ripping tendons and ligaments with their typical knee-jerk reaction to this example, look again. This is a statement and recognition of the power and strength men recognize within women-power they envy, strength they admire, and tenderness they crave. This is a statement of respect and recognition for women, not belittlement.
Jump forward to the 20th century, and the advent of militant feminism that took hold of our culture. Now understand, there isn't a person-male or female-that I know who doesn't believe that women were mistreated in the past, or that they deserve rights of voting, work, etc. So let's just toss that ridiculous argument from the get-go. No, this is about the fact that these Stalinistic Types who decided that women deserved better--not just equal-treatment than men have overtaken, destroyed, and even in the face of logic and reason-and their own case studies and evaluations--turned to typical female histrionics to bludgeon society into doing what they say.
This was driven home with a resounding wham! when Bernard Goldberg-a man, no less--talked about the final straw that made him decide he could no longer play his part in the Liberal Lineup that has overtaken the media. In his best-selling book Bias, Goldberg states that there had been little things for years that had gnawed at his conscience, but it was when he saw what was happening to children-at the behest of women, no less-that he knew he could pretend no more.
Goldberg only gave voice to what we've all seen for decades now, but have become too Politically Castrated to say. It is the horrifying trend in our children's feelings, lives, and behavior. You see, when we began giving into the bullying tactics of the feminist movement that used guilt and "Second Class Status" brainwashing to get women to leave the home, it resulted in our children going en masse to day cares or coming home alone. Suicide rates, sexual diseases, poor academics, increased violence and drug use, not to mention less formal criminal behavior such as arguing a great deal, deliberate and even gleeful cruelty, explosive behavior, too much talking, too much fighting have all been the result of the selfishness of the "Woman-Good-Man-Bad" mentality of those who pay lip service only to it being "for the children" when what they really intend to say is "Mine! Mine! Mine! Now! Now! Now!"
The real kicker to this is that the Gloria Steinems of the world don't even realize what they were saying by getting women to leave the home for the "man's world." It was the women of the world-not the men-who force fed women the notion that what comes naturally to men-to conquer the outside world-was more important, better, more deserving than what comes naturally to women. They were actually demeaning femininity by their own words, and were too foolish to even realize it. The shame of my sex is that we bought into it. The shame of the male sex is that they did too.
Society has paid a dear price for women choosing to listen to these wretched individuals. Women are now in a far worse position than they were 100 years ago; back then, they didn't have many other choices than to be a wife and mother. Today, if they want to be a wife and mother, they can't unless they marry a very rich man. Feminism has enslaved us into the "SuperWoman" role-an impossible place to live. But I have a sick feeling that that is exactly their goal. You see, being pro-abortion isn't enough. They want motherhood and wife-dom to be so difficult, so back-breaking, so agonizing in modern living that women will choose not to marry and have children. For those who still don't grasp it, let me say it in plain speech: Feminism is the party of the "anti-child."
"Female Empowerment" was the shameful fantasy. Now for the harsh reality. Sisters, your babies are killing each other. They are having babies at younger ages and in record numbers in a desperate search for that unconditional love they couldn't find in the myriad of minimum wage babysitters and daycares they had growing up. They are turning to gangs and drugs to ease the pain of loneliness and the longing for Mommy-a longing which is innate, necessary, and good-and it is our fault. Our children are suffering; their tender feelings have waxed cold and all signs of humanity are dying off in agonizing death throes, and we women are the cause. Women. The givers of life have turned against their own offspring in a vain quest for self-fulfillment. It is madness.
Society became this way because we women allowed ourselves to feel ashamed for having children and raising them right, and that was wrong. It's time for the New Feminist Revolution. No longer can our children-or society-abide the general female answer and shrug: "Well, it's the day we live in... whatcha gonna do?"
Here's what you're gonna do. Women, go home. Get rid of the huge mortgage and move into a trailer. It's not the neighborhood-or village, idiot!-that raises a good child. Have two cars? Get rid of one and deal with the annoyance of having to drive more. It's not the car that makes the family. Fancy clothes and vacations? Trivial and silly... those won't be what your child remembers. Be the one who drops him off and picks him up from school. Those precious moments laughing and talking will always be remembered, I guarantee it. Be in the kitchen, filling a warm home with delicious smells, sounds, and memories, and bring the whole family in to make dinner again, cleaning up together afterwards and bonding over pot roast. It is simple, it is time tested, it is true. The hand that rocks the cradle did-at one time-rule the world. The cradle is silent because the hand is at work and the baby at an institution. Sisters, go home-too much is at stake. Your babies are dying and killing, and the only one who can stop this infanticide is you. The power is-and always has been-yours. Take it back now... it's almost too late.
Keep the faith, bros-and sis-and in all things courage.
****
Hmmm, where to start, where to start?
There was a time when women deserved respect-because we are mothers, because of our natural softness and tender feelings, because we have been the ones who raised up righteous leaders of good nations for centuries now.
Except, of course, that all that respect didn't get us the right to vote, the right to leave an abusive marriage and still have our children, the right to be treated as adults rather than children in a legal sense. All that respect didn't keep men from battering and otherwise mistreating women. Then, they just called it "within their rights".
Not to mention the women who are NOT mothers. Some by choice, some by chance.
In the sixties, women began taking the easy way out. Why? Because Motherhood is a damned hard thing to do. It is 24/7/365.
Yes, because being a working mother is easy. You don't do anything when you come home. /sarcasm
Being a working mother is like having 2 full-time jobs. The fathers of my generation are starting to be more involved, but mothers who work (many because they must) tend to come home from one job and right into another.
No, this is about the fact that these Stalinistic Types who decided that women deserved better--not just equal-treatment than men have overtaken, destroyed, and even in the face of logic and reason-and their own case studies and evaluations--turned to typical female histrionics to bludgeon society into doing what they say.
"Typical female histrionics" to get our way? Wait, hasn't she just been talking about all the respect society has for women, all the power we have? Why would we have to resort to pitching a fit to get what we want?
It was the women of the world-not the men-who force fed women the notion that what comes naturally to men-to conquer the outside world-was more important, better, more deserving than what comes naturally to women.
"Naturally"? Oh you mean after society beat it into us.
It's not that it's more important, it's that they thought women deserved the same opportunity as men.
For those who still don't grasp it, let me say it in plain speech: Feminism is the party of the "anti-child."
And this would be why feminists argue for things like mandatory maternity leave and better access to better day care centers, right?
Here's what you're gonna do. Women, go home. Get rid of the huge mortgage and move into a trailer.
It must be nice to live in this writer's world. There's obviously no women who work because they must - because they are single mothers - because their husbands cannot work - because they want to provide their children with advantages like better schools and more chances for a better life.
It is simple, it is time tested, it is true. The hand that rocks the cradle did-at one time-rule the world.
I'm sorry, but I have got to call bullshit on this one.
Note, the author is an "avid military historian", is working on her grad degree in military history (sure sounds tender and caring to me), enjoys "power-lifting, snowmobiling, activities of any nature", and has nicknames like "The Pitbull".
I wonder if she hangs out with Dr. Laura (who berates women for not staying home with their children, while she has a very active career. Or Phyllis Schafly, who told women to stay at home while she traveled and campaigned.
Practice what you preach, and don't try to force me, or any other woman into the role YOU envision for us.
If women want to stay home - if they feel it's the best thing for their child, or it's simply what they want to do - go for it. Feminism is meant to be about having choices, not just being shuffled off into one box.
And for God's sake, quit trying to pit working mothers against stay-at-home mothers - because when it comes down to it, members of both groups are all mothers, and want what's best for our families, and for us. The two should not be exclusive.
DV
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Date: 2006-09-13 04:57 pm (UTC)I guess that's one way to express, "Show up naked. Bring beer."
Sorry, sorry, just couldn't restrain myself (g).
This article is nothing more than the continuation of *some* women who stay home beating up on women who work. Having done both, I can only ask why can't we *support* each other?
The article, IMHO, was pretty badly written and not persuasive, at all. Are you sure it was not written tongue-in-cheek?
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Date: 2006-09-13 06:55 pm (UTC)TK
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Date: 2006-09-13 07:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-09-13 07:20 pm (UTC)Nor was he the only person of the age who thought this, it was the common understanding. Female bodies were too soft, too curvy.
TK
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Date: 2006-09-13 07:23 pm (UTC)Fr. Andrew Greeley does admire his Virgin Marys, who end up looking quite ready to defend the infant Jesus from anything.
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Date: 2006-09-13 07:25 pm (UTC)TK
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Date: 2006-09-13 09:42 pm (UTC)According to Echidne of the Snakes, who 1) had that initial thought herself, from what she wrote on her own blog and 2) emailed the author in response, no.
This was intended seriously.
DV
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Date: 2006-09-13 05:37 pm (UTC)"There was a time when women deserved respect-because we are mothers, because of our natural softness and tender feelings, because we have been the ones who raised up righteous leaders of good nations for centuries now."
What.The.Fuck. Besides lumping all women into the "gentle and nurturing" box (and there is a feminism that says just this, it's called "cultural feminism") it also slaps the face of every man who is gentle and nurturing as a father.
After that, you deconstructed it pretty much as I would. Once again, like the other writers who tell women to stay at home, she doesn't seem to be doing that, nor are her interests "gentle and nurturing". Military history? Powerlifting? And as you say, her nickname is "Pitbull".
I know some Christian universities, Liberty Baptist being one, have degrees in Marriage and Motherhood. I suggest she hie herself there.
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Date: 2006-09-13 06:52 pm (UTC)Yep, the answer to the problems of women is to selectively be poor.
Her first. After twenty years of seeing how well it works for her, I might recommend it for others.
Until then, well she can kiss my ass.
TK
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Date: 2006-09-13 09:43 pm (UTC)Amen!
DV
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Date: 2006-09-13 07:07 pm (UTC)Hear! Hear!
Now you should practice what you preach, stay home, raise the kids and stop engaging in politics.
A woman's place is in the home, and, to quote Paul, from 1 Timothy
9In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
10But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
I did it from my .mil address.
TK
SQUEEEEE!!!!!!
Date: 2006-09-14 12:29 am (UTC)Dear Stephanie,
First, please point out where I said women such as you shouldn't exist.
Second, I don't believe women should be in the military other than WAC/WAVE type positions. I would never sign up for that reason alone.
Third, where did I ever say that women are not to do sports? I've gone over every femmie article I've written, and can find nothing even close to that.
Outside of your horrendous leaps in reasoning, you bet your ass I blame women for the destruction of our families. Women have taken on the less admirable characteristics of men, and have sold out their own offspring in order to do so. What came naturally to us--tenderness, nurturing, selflessness--was labeled as shameful by the femmis, not ever once by men. I've never known a man to use the term "Barefoot and Pregnant," but I've known plenty of femmies who did.
Why are women such as myself doing this? Because the efforts of femmies and hippies have left our men PC--Politically Castrated. They live in fear of being labeled a sexist or a racist to the point that they don't dare speak the truth, and femmies are the reason. Since that doesn't work on me, it is logical to see why women now must do what men have been politically manipulated not to DARE do.
Where did I ever say that strength is not a female virtue? The best mothers were ALWAYS strong, tenacious, "pitbull" type women, who fought hard for their families. Now they hand their children over to the state to raise so that they can do what they want to do--the epitome of selfish evil. What made women so magnificent was their unconditional love and willing sacrifice for the future, for their children--the very attributes that feminism ridiculed. And worst of all, too many women fell for it; a shameful result of too many women who were too easily led and too insecure to recognize the lies.
You go to great lengths to try to convince everyone that mothers who work cause their children no harm. If that were true, why did the feminist groups in Bernard Goldberg's book have to bury their own studies? Because their own studies came back proving that they were wrong--children in the past 40 years have gotten worse. Rather than having the guts to come forward and admit they were wrong and try to change--as men and whites did--they destroyed the studies, the PROOF of their mistake, and sold out the children they were supposed to be all about. Women are not as good at military as men--they can't carry as much, are not inherently aggressive, and are hinderance to those who are meant to be there. While there is occassionally a woman who can physically do anything a man can do, they are the exception, not the rule, and our republic is based on laws for the rule, NOT the exception. Femmies have done all they can to reverse that, demanding that mankind ignore nature and logic in favor of laws forbidding them from acknowledging natural law and truth.
You don't have to believe me; the proof will be played out by your children. And that will be one helluva tragedy.
-------
I feel so special!!!!!!
Re: SQUEEEEE!!!!!!
Date: 2006-09-14 01:46 am (UTC)Come now, that's a very unfair burden to put on MeiMei.
Oh, that's right, you bought into the pro-abortion rhetoric of the feminists.
Part of me is contemplating writing her myself, but I'm busy making sure Adrianna absorbs feminism in my breast milk. :)
I love how she keeps insisting that the laws are for the rule, not the exception, but of course she is an exception. Is she living in a trailer with one car? I think not, somehow.
DV
Re: SQUEEEEE!!!!!!
Date: 2006-09-14 01:56 am (UTC)I also informed her that Iraq has proven that women can carry just as much as the men, and when so many of us are gunners on top of Humvees, I don't see how we "get in the way."
Re: SQUEEEEE!!!!!!
Date: 2006-09-14 02:17 am (UTC)I'm scared to ask how you obliquely mentioned me, but I must.
DV
Re: SQUEEEEE!!!!!!
Date: 2006-09-14 04:29 am (UTC)Re: SQUEEEEE!!!!!!
Date: 2006-09-14 02:41 pm (UTC)I have written.
DV
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Date: 2006-09-14 05:49 pm (UTC)It Gets Better
Date: 2006-09-15 02:12 pm (UTC)As a few of the other people who have read this article, I felt compelled to email the author:
Ms. Kirkland,
My initial response to reading your article about feminism's "proud destruction of mankind" (following a link from Echidne of the Snakes) was to wonder if we indeed live in the same America.
As a feminist, I support a woman's decision to stay home if she so desires. There may be many reasons for her to make this decision. She may be committed to the idea of homeschooling her children; she may feel
her place is in the home; it may make more sense financially. Feminism is about women being able to have choices, and not being forced into a role because it's the only acceptable game in town.
What I do not support is women being forced - guilted - back into the home because some people think we belong there. Especially since you accuse the
feminists of guilting women out of the home, and then go on to accuse the feminists of using "typical female histrionics" to get their way. Referring to "typical female histrionics" doesn't sound very respectful of
women, by the way. It's not about preaching that conquering the outside world is better than staying home and raising children - it's simply that women should be given the chance and the choice.
Working mothers are not taking the "easy way out". Instead, they are working two full-time jobs. The men of my generation (I am 27) are becoming more involved in the raising of their children, but it's still not
approaching fifty percent.
Feminists are not fighting for women to have more rights than men. Of course, "feminists" are no more a single homogenous group than, say, conservatives. There are different areas of the movement that have different motives and goals, and they don't always agree with other areas. Women should have equal rights and equal responsibilities.
Taking your child to daycare is not turning them over to the state. Very few daycares are run by "the government" - they are licensed and inspected, but that's about it. We are paying for the cost of sending our children to daycare, a cost that we accepted when we decided to keep working after bearing children. It is not a decision that is made lightly.
I don't feel that women are worse off because of feminism. You may feel so - other women may feel so. The majority of women, however, are not ready to put back the advances gained from feminism. The right to birth control, for one.
If you believe that feminism is the party of the anti-child, I would recommend you read an excellent book called _The Mommy Myth_ by Susan Douglas and Meredith Michaels. There is quite a bit in there about programs feminists have fought for that would have benefited women and children - and it wasn't the feminists who got them defeated.
You can talk all you want about how much society "respects" women, but you can't make me buy it. If this is so, then how come so many "typically female" jobs are badly underpaid - teaching, child care, and domestic workers, to give a few.
It Gets Better, Part II (Cont'd for Length)
Date: 2006-09-15 02:13 pm (UTC)What really made me wonder if we were living in the same reality, however, was your final paragraph. First, you assume that women are working solely to provide luxuries. You assume that there is a husband with a job sufficient to provide for the family. Perhaps you feel that there should be, and that this is yet another sign of the decay of our society. We're not all working so we can have fancy cars and houses and clothes and vacations. Working also does not keep women from providing their families with all the bonding you mention. Maybe it's a little more work. But we manage.
You also ignore the single mothers, the divorced mothers, the widows - women who must work - when you tell us "Woman, go home." You ignore poor families, where both salaries are needed - or middle-class families, nowadays. You tell us to go live in a trailer, like that will solve everything.
Also, I can't help but noticing that you don't exactly fit the "little wife and mother at home" profile that you seem to be pushing in this article.
Like my friend (
I'm a staff sergeant in the US Army, a wife and mother of a two-month old child.
I have posted a link to your article on my blog (http://desert-vixen.livejournal.com/251653.html), and would like to post this and your responses (either in part or entirely) on the blog.
Respectfully,
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It Gets Better, Part III (In Which The Author Responds)
Date: 2006-09-15 02:22 pm (UTC)home if she so desires.<
But feminism has made this impossible for all but the wealthiest. The forced shame-ridden exodus of women by femmies long ago forced the cost of living to skyrocket. Families who had been able to afford a middle income lifestyle on one salary suddenly found themselves in poor, low income neighborhoods with no other way to make additional income than to send Mom out to work. This is what the femmies wanted--women out of the home.
So now we're responsible for tax raises and inflation too? We're probably to blame for gas prices, too.
If femmies believe in the right to choose to stay home, then why all the anti-stay at home rhetoric? Why the claims of shame leveled at women for being baby machines, sex slaves, etc., that femmies hurled at women?
Why pretending that the biggest flaw in their so-called reasoning--that most women deeply desire marriage, motherhood, and childcare--didn't exist?
Hmmm, wedding ring, check. Husband, check. Child, check. I'm not even going to touch the rest of the statement.
You may tell yourself you believe a woman can choose to stay home, but that is because you are secure in the knowledge that thanks to others like you, it is a rarity now days. Femmies imprisoned us into the SUPER WOMAN mold, an absolutely impossible place to live.
The other big question is this: If femmies are so secure that they did the right thing, why desperate burying of their own studies, as Bernard Goldberg testifies to? After all, the femmie mantra is that they are all for children...why do they fear the public reading their own studies? Why the desperation of femmies to blame anyone or anything besides their own failings for the undeniable wretchedness of today's children? The first 10 years of a child's life are the most vital...they determine forever how that child will forever respond and react. And women once had control of that implicitly. Now the confusion of those years is being played out in angry outbursts, murder, drugs, and gangs, and given that mothers are in control of childhood, it is our fault. We have let children down, and for such awful, selfish reasons. Your determined fight against truth is telling. It is a horrible thing to admit that you are responsible for a generation of child destruction.
Femmies play off the fact that no other person on earth has more influence on a child than his mother. I agree. THAT is why our children are cold killers now--mothers and the lack thereof. You can't just say that when children succeed...when children fail, especially at such a young age, mother is to blame too. No one has more power over the future than a mother. We are the reason that future is so bleak now. We should be ashamed of that, and do everything in our power to change this horror. Whites changed when they admitted to wrongs; so did men. Why won't women?
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She is living in a different reality than the rest of us, and it sounds like a scary place. I also love the dismissive dimunitive she keeps using for feminist. I guess guilt trips aren't included as part of the "typical female histrionics".
DV
Re: It Gets Better, Part III (In Which The Author Responds)
Date: 2006-09-15 03:10 pm (UTC)Don't you like being told you don't exist, to your face?
Re: It Gets Better, Part III (In Which The Author Responds)
Date: 2006-09-15 03:55 pm (UTC)Either we don't exist, or we're responsible for all the evil in the world. Must be our Evil Feminist MindControl Rays.
DV
I just want to know if she's living in a trailer herself
Date: 2006-09-15 03:08 pm (UTC)My six brothers and sisters all want better lives for their children than we had - like, you know, having clothes that aren't all hand-me-downs, lessons, fun stuff, enough food. And being the stay-at-home big sister who did most of the child-rearing for our mother when she was too pregnant to manage, helped turn me *into* the radfem I am today. How many kids does this galoot have, eh? I doubt it's 7+.
Goddamn hypocrite women who insist on slavery for the rest of us. Being raised by people who talked like her is why I'm defiantly single and decided that I'd never be like my mother by the time I was 12, even if I couldn't admit it fully honestly even to myself, surrounded as I was by radical-conservative Catholic.
Re: I just want to know if she's living in a trailer herself
Date: 2006-09-15 04:06 pm (UTC)I'm relatively sure she's not. Since she didn't respond to that part.
But, she's Different. And Special. Not Like Those Other Women.
She has two sons, according to her little bio.
Goddamn hypocrite women who insist on slavery for the rest of us.
That about sums it up, yes.
DV